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Hi Tim

We installed a new server with 6.2 last month, and although were a bit disappointed to find it was not yet production ready, understand the need to get it rolling asap so that testing can really take place. Good to see the credit you're getting for the Zarafa implementation.

Now that the 6.3 version has made Zarafa available, I'm planning to test run a migration in August. A few questions; 

- Is it still possible to use the normal MySql database rather than the System one?
- I am assuming that once all the users have been created in clearos, and the zarafa database has been imported, that all the users need to be manually re-hooked using zarafa-admin?
- Does the webconfig httpd server still need manual tweaking or is this automatically done now?
- As I understand it from you previous post, a current Zarafa license (bought from Zarafa here in Holland) can be imported, but that needs to be done manually, and not through Marketplace?

Thanks for your time, Tim

Hi Peter, thanks for the feedback, hopefully your experience of 6.3.x will be better (a lot happened between 5.2 and 6.2!)

- At present the implementation uses the system-mysql database. You can modify this to MySQL if you wish by editing /etc/zarafa/server.cfg and providing the alternative database details.
- I posted some migration steps here from 5.2 to 6.2, which worked well for my own personal server.
docs.google.com/document/d/1Sei3F6uJDkRY...DLYiYuXUD3CDd1A/edit
- The re-hook process is time consuming if you have large amount of users. The best way would be to migrate users too so that username and UID is maintained. Peter Baldwin was going to look at the 'system config' backup /restore so that users can export the users from ClearOS 5.2 and import into 6.x. That's not available yet, so perhaps worth waiting for?
- Again Zarafa runs from the default web server port 80/443 in the new version - no additional tweaking required. Different from the setup in 5.2 as ClearOS are keen to remain close to the Zarafa default implementation... if there is a lot of demand I can make the case to use the webconfig ports
- The official route is to purchase Zarafa through the Marketplace, and I should point you at the very keenly priced Professional $/user from ClearOS which also comes with official support. Unofficially you could in theory still use your own previous license as the underlying software is the same, but you are left on your own for support. Note this is not tested!

If you need to move your license after testing, I believe Ben has offered on other occasions. Just drop him a PM or raise a support ticket through ClearSDN

Hi Tim. Thanks for the reply and all the info. Will get on and test in August - should probably be doing other things, but can't resist. I'd like to buy you a beer some day - am back home on the South Coast quite often, not too far from where you are! All the best, Peter

Hi Tim,

I appreciate your contribution towards Zarafa and ClearOS. Believe me, not many people will have a problem in fishing out $10 from their wallet, for getting something out of the box, for which is tedious in configuring, for people like me who do not have any computer / software background. Whatever I have learned is through different forums and vast knowledge available on the net. However I want to inquire is that this fee of $10 a one time fee, that allows me to install the Zarafa app on multiple systems with the same username or will I need to pay this fee every time I install this app. Considering I am trying to build a system with ClearOS Community 6.3.0 which is still a beta version, I need to buy this app. Later when I build a new system with the final release, do I need to pay again.

Thanks
Peevs

Hi Peevs,

ClearOS uses a similar model as Android Play (aka Marketplace) and iPhone. The Zarafa Community paid app is a one-time fee for one system. If you have 10 systems with Zarafa Community in your account, then you will need to make 10 purchases. If you ever need to re-install a system, you certainly don't have to pay again. The subscription can be re-used.

Hi Peter,

I am not aware of how the Android Play functions, but I am sure about Apple products. Each app in the Apple store can be bought and used on multiple systems (Ipad, Iphone & Ipod) if they belong to the same person, i.e. if they all use the same user id registered with apple. Well this is not a complaint but a suggestion for the clearcenter marketplace. I am still unsure about the fact that in my case if I install 6.3 final release over the 6.3.0 beta (after a reformat) will it be considered a reinstall or a different system.

Thanks
Peevs

Is there any way to train spamassassin currently with Zarafa? If not, are there plans in the works?

Hey Jared, it's in the pipeline, in short yes you can using a similar setup to the bayesian learning instructions I've posted in the forum. There is also a webaccess plugin I'm investigating

some of us have been testing 6.3 in a semi productive environment. will we have to reinstall the server from scratch, when the final release is available or will we be able to upgrade to the final release?

Hello,

Yes, upgrades from 6.2.0 are supported. For all intents and purposes, doing the following is the upgrade to 6.3.0 final:

yum --enablerepo=clearos-updates-testing upgrade