ClearFoundation

Moi Guys,

I can't find any further information on the purpose of the installation interface types. During the installation there is a request to select ethernet, cable, dsl, etc. Yet, there is no information what so ever what's the impact for the system.

DSL typically has ppp config needs, so I understand that requires the userid and password for automatic ppp.

By large, I would consider that cable and ethernet are the same, but are they?

So, where can I find the exact definition of the difference and actual system impact on these?

Hello, I am having issues installing the software... I go through the wizzard without problems until I get to Manual tcp/ip Configuration... Its asking me to specify my LAN IP address and I actualy done this more than 10 times and it keep saying that there was an error configuring your network interface... I have followed the videos and all!!!

What can I do? The system has one intergrated ethernet card and one USB network card... Can this be the problem? Does ClearOS need to have regular PCI NICs?

Please let me know hopw I can fix this...

Thanks

Daniboiy

Hi Ilari,

Sorry I did not see your post earlier.
First of all ... what is your type of Internet connection.
Only when you are using WAN type connections I cannot assist you, but I bet someone else will.
Otherwise chose what you use.

Check these links for more info:
Connecting to the Internet Using PPPoE or a Cable Modem
Type of Internet connection
According to this video they should all work, but he is actually installing Clark Connect 5:
Installing the ClearOS
(You can check Google for more info or contact your ISP)

If that doesn't answer your question then tell us what the problem is.
Did you try to select what you have and it didn't work ... ?!?


Hi Jose,

I think it would have been wise of you to start your own thread, because your post has nothing to do with Ilari's question.
But to answer it ... not all network cards are supported and currently there is no hardware list available yet.
Check these posts:
What PCI NIC cards are supported by 5.1 installer
Using a USB connection as a network connection.
Apple USB Ethernet adapter (MB442)

But even knowing that, I cannot confirm if it's a configuration or a compatibility issue.
What type of network card(s) are you using, because maybe someone can assist you finding the right drivers and installing them ... ?!?

Greetings,

John

Moi,

I'm having Cable modem connection, where the ISP DHCP provides one public IP Address, with respective DNS & etc details as per usual. So, it's not that I know what type of connection I have, but my question is merely asking "what's difference in the ClearOS functionality if I select Cable or Ethernet?"

Seemingly, it does not seem to matter which I select of these two options, yet I wonder why do we have these options, which look very similar to me? (Cable vs. Ethernet)

On the other hand, if we consider the typical implementation of Cable vs. Ethernet, Cable connections are typically asymmetric, fex. with 12mbps down and 1mbps up, where ethernet typically is symmetric, fex. 10mbps down and 10mbps up.

Yet, there is no description or definition in any documents, if there is indeed change of ClearOS configs, depending which you select. Then my question, is there a difference? fex. in /etc/firewall settings?
If there is, can we please shed some light what the actual implication is?

Hope that clears the question.

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My understanding is that cable requires some additional authentication, user name / password (used typically with cable modem) for example. Ethernet is just a bog standard NIC which obtains it's ip automatically, or can be configured with a static IP....they are essentially very similar, but i've never had a need to set anything other than Ethernet

well, cable is like ethernet, your ClarkConnect err ClearOS box is DHCP Client and requests IP Address and does get it, exactly like if you selected the Ethernet. I see no difference.

So, where can I find the installer source code? I can read, but I can't find.

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@Ilari
You are correct. There is little difference between Ethernet and Cable Modem or DSL-Standard for that matter. The biggest difference is in the mind of the user. The protocol for DOCSIS does not include an option for PPPoE but very few users of DOCSIS even know what PPPoE is or why they would need it. They don't know what DOCSIS is either for that matter even though they use it. At the same time, they don't know what Ethernet is or if they have it, or if they do they may consider it as a LAN only type technology. Those extra options are there for users so they do not get confused. The two methods for the WAN in the install are technically PPPoE and CSMA/CD (Ethernet). So why list the two extras (Cable - Standard, DSL - Standard)?

If you look at the list the items are:

Ethernet
Cable - Standard
DSL - Standard
DSL - PPPoE

The first 3 == Ethernet

If the list just contained:

Ethernet
DSL - PPPoE

The following may and does occur in the minds of new users when they run into the 2 option prompt.

1) Hmm, well I have a cable modem and that is like DSL so I guess I choose DSL.

2) Hmm, well I have DSL but I don't know what PPPoE is and my provider didn't mention anything about that, so I guess I choose the DSL option.

This is the rational used for this menu option. I apologize if it speaks beneath your skill but when we had just the two options on the installer, there was confusion with some users.

@Jose Daniel Callejas
USB is probably the issue here. The installer will not typically support USB NICs. USB NICs are also not very reliable and may cause other problems in the future. Stick with traditional NICs. If you are short on slots on your motherboard, consider using a dual port nic.